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How Alex Fleischer Helps Corporates Find the Right Startup Match

Ecosystem Lead at CapGemini

Danny Nathan
Danny Nathan

Jun 12, 2025

5 min read

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Why you should watch it ☝️

What does it look like to build innovation that actually ships inside a Fortune 500? Can you create “serendipity” on purpose?

In this episode of Innovate, Disrupt, or Die — The Podcast, Danny sits down with Alex Fleischer, VP of Capgemini’s Applied Innovation Exchange, to unpack how large enterprises explore emerging tech without getting lost in the hype. From pilot purgatory to procurement nightmares, Alex shares how his team helps clients move from vague curiosity to operational change and why so many efforts fail before they even start.

You’ll hear:

  • How Capgemini’s “Discover, Devise, Deploy” framework helps companies go from whiteboard to execution.

  • Why startup-enterprise matchmaking usually fails, and how to do it right.

  • What innovation readiness actually looks like inside an org, not just structurally, but politically.

  • How Alex and his team vet founders for enterprise fit, not just founder hype.

  • Why most trend-chasing (AI, metaverse, etc.) falls flat—and what it takes to make those technologies stick.

If you’re selling into big orgs, trying to move something forward inside one, or just sick of innovation for show, this episode lays out what’s actually happening behind the scenes.

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